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08-19-2004 06:39 PM #1
T3 and Albuterol... A most effective stack
I am getting a lot of questions on the proper way to cycle T3 and Albuterol. The best way to run it is as follows:
I recommend that one runs the Albuterol and the T3 for a month. With the Albuterols short half life, one has greater control over the application times, as well as slower Beta receptor downregulation. That basically means that you can run the Albuterol for a much longer time then clen, and would also mean an OVERALL greater fat loss. Nobody diets for two weeks. A diet is about applying a long term, consistent nutritional and supplementation plan along with an appropriate training and exercise program.
I would go 4 MG's of Albuterol right in the morning, and then possibly again late afternoon (optional). With clen, you would shy away from a late afternoon application because you would have difficulty sleeping. With Albuterol, you are basically fine in 4-5 hours. The T3 I would do right in the morning, with a quick rampup of 1 pump the first day, 2 the next, then three the next, up to a maximum of five. I would run that up till day 25 and then ramp it down the same way. I don't believe in running T3 longer than a month at a time. I would take a 2-4 week rest on the Albuterol and then a 2-4 week (most likely 4) on the T3. Since most diet programs are three months, you would be running the combo for the first and last month, meaning that you would be "kickstarting" your cutting program, and then maximizing the last month.
The combo is extremely effective. Imust say that I haven't felt that warm since DNP, but it is nice because you don't feel super buzzy and you can sleep easily at the end of the day.Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-20-2004 08:26 AM #2
I typically do cardio first thing in the morning and wait to dose the T3/albut or whatever fat loss agents I am using until afterwards. I would assume that you would get pretty warm on it. Therefore, you could at least time your Albuterol with your cardio, so that if you did cardio in the afternoon, you would take the Albuterol in the morning.
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08-20-2004 08:44 AM #3
Shit, I miscalculated. Somehow, I came up to 10 pumps equals 1 ml. So I've been doing 8 pumps per day of the T3 for the last week.
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08-20-2004 08:46 AM #4Yeesh! Well, if you tested yourself and that is what you came out with, then you are probably fine. I have always tested out around 5 pumps for one ml with the cemlabs stuff I have.Originally posted by Clemdog
Shit, I miscalculated. Somehow, I came up to 10 pumps equals 1 ml. So I've been doing 8 pumps per day of the T3 for the last week.
I wouldn't worry too much about it either even if you were taking more. There have been studies with patients taking WAY more then that with no adverse sides.Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-20-2004 09:58 AM #5I've been doing 4 squirts twice a day. I'm sure you're twice my size you'll be fine.Originally posted by Clemdog
Shit, I miscalculated. Somehow, I came up to 10 pumps equals 1 ml. So I've been doing 8 pumps per day of the T3 for the last week.
JGuns, shouldn't you be on AAS while running this to prevent muscle loss? This is why I didn't run T3 also becuase I'm not on anything. Also how long can you run it for?
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08-20-2004 11:50 AM #6Yeah, you should be on PH's like M1test and 4AD, or cycling, but if you run short cycles of the T3, I think you'll be fine. I prefer short cycles of T3 anyway because even on AAS you start cannibalizing too much muscle, especially if you are dieting.Originally posted by Bellina
I've been doing 4 squirts twice a day. I'm sure you're twice my size you'll be fine.
JGuns, shouldn't you be on AAS while running this to prevent muscle loss? This is why I didn't run T3 also becuase I'm not on anything. Also how long can you run it for?
You can run T3 for a very long time without any thyroid problems. I typically stay in the 2-4 week period. Albuterol can be run up to at least a month effectively.Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-20-2004 02:19 PM #7
When you say "short" on T3 would you consider 2-4 weeks as you had said you do "short"? I was considering doing T3 with the Albuterol but I am not running anything right now. SoI was advised against it because of muscle loss. I was thinking of runnign the albeuterol for 8 weeks. Is this too long? Maybe I can still add in the T3.
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08-20-2004 02:25 PM #82-4 weeks on T3 is short IMO. Albuterol you could try for 8 weeks, but you may consider upping the dosage after a month, maybe to 6-8 MG's.Originally posted by Bellina
When you say "short" on T3 would you consider 2-4 weeks as you had said you do "short"?
Also on the albeuterol...good to run for say 8 weeks?Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-20-2004 02:53 PM #9
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08-20-2004 03:05 PM #10That is probably around 3-3.5 MG'sOriginally posted by Bellina
Cool good to know. Right now I'm doing 2 squirts twice a day whatever that equals out to.Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-20-2004 06:06 PM #11Thanks!Originally posted by JGUNS
That is probably around 3-3.5 MG's
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08-21-2004 07:14 AM #12
So tell me -- either JGUNS or Bellina -- how sweaty does the T3 and Albuterol combo make you? clen and Ephedrine make me sweat like crazy. T3 has not so far. However, I just started a tren/test cycle, so that's making me a little sweaty.
I'm just afraid that if I threw Albuterol into the mix, I'd be sweating like a whore in church.Disclaimer:
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08-21-2004 12:50 PM #13I am a sweaty bastard myself! I guess that the first time I took it I sweated a lot, but after once or twice it wasn't too bad. I would just start with maybe half the dose and see how you do. Remember that because it has a shorter half life, you can play around with it and not have to deal with the consequences for a prolonged period of time.Originally posted by Clemdog
So tell me -- either JGUNS or Bellina -- how sweaty does the T3 and Albuterol combo make you? clen and Ephedrine make me sweat like crazy. T3 has not so far. However, I just started a tren/test cycle, so that's making me a little sweaty.
I'm just afraid that if I threw Albuterol into the mix, I'd be sweating like a whore in church.Rest In Peace Nandi. My friend and partner, your wisdom will be forever immortalized.
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08-23-2004 06:35 PM #14
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I'm taking Alb and T3 now....and it took alot to make me sweat before, now I sweat on a 10 minute cardio routine...without a racing heart I might add.....
I am dosing the Albuterol at 1mg every 4 hours...8am, 12pm, and 4pm......I think I will stick to this spacing as it appears to keep the heat going, and minimize any excess nervous system reaction...
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08-24-2004 04:57 PM #15
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I would not go under 32mg of Albuterol along with T3.. i always start @ 16mg and taper it up to 36mg and then little taper down.. six weeks cycles.. i tried to get lower doses but they just doesnt do anything than shakin hands. Albuterol isnt as selective receptor antagonist as clen so dont worry about doses.. it's milder even at doses ca. 40mg. Stick it with taurine and magnessium and will be great.



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results: chol 264 to 196 HDL 44 to 42 tri 283 181 vldl 57 to 36 LDL 163 to 118 will add some cardio and fish oils to lower tris more and see if I can cont to improve.
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